Originally Posted By: joejoe1

IMO, you might have to think about dropping the D papers. At least think about it as an option. I think you are looking at D as the end of you'll relationship. But she went on a 5 day trip with OM, and you didn't object. She moved OM in your home did you object. I'm scared to give you this advice, because you want to keep the door open, and I think you think D is closing that door, but it's not. It's a piece of paper. You are holding on the a W, that don't want to be held on to, at least in her mind right now.

I dont see getting divorced as a way of increasing her respect for you. And Im not sure what there is to object to --> how does saying "I dont agree with you going on vacation with OM" do anything?

In my opinion, having this attitude of "being there for her" is what is leading to the disrespect. She can do whatever she wants and she knows that you are there as a safety net. If she has a problem, she has your shoulder to cry on before going back to life with OM.

Thats why everyone is pushing for you to go less contact. I know you arent initiating and thats good. But how can you amp it up?

Originally Posted By: joejoe1
IMO, I don't think your wife thinks you will walk away from her (let her go completely). She stills thinks she can hold on to you.

EXACTLY this.

I dont believe that she has any reason to end the R with OM while this is true.