Thanks 25. I really appreciate your advice. Here is where I am for the last couple weeks. I have talked to the w about marriage counseling she is willing to go for me. Big chance there she always said that what can someone tell us that we don't already know. So I appreciate the fact that she is willing to go if I want to. But honestly do I want to go I don't know. I can look back on our problems in the marriage and we are both working on them. I think that yes it might be helpful to have somebody that is outside looking in tell us how messed up we were(are). But also both of us in the last five months have changed so much for th better I almost want to keep at what we are doing and go with the flow. I can tell you this I am 100% in this marriage. And everything I have got from the w says she is too. And that has made life a lot better for both of us. Do I wish we hadn't been thru this for sure. But I can tell you it has made me a better person without a doubt. We have told each other we love each other and need each other more times in the last two months then we did in 8 years of marriage. And I have said in order for this to work we are both going to have to be open and honest and in this 150% and she says I'm in it for the long haul. My major question is does the wondering ever end or am I always going to question what she is doing and what she is ip too. And how do you know when it's real and not just a bunch of bull coming from your spouse.