any chance she'd be willing to go to Retrovaille? (are you familiar with it?)
Though she may think it's worthless and express no interest, IMHO, getting her there is the goal.
I don't think you can spend the whole weekend there and listen, and do the "homework" and get nothing out of it.
Even if she thinks it's just to make things easier on the kids. I'm not saying to be dishonest but I am saying to consider just getting you guys there.
They will talk to each of you privately about ending A's before going. You do not have to bring it up.
In fact, I would not. Lessen the pressure as it relates to Retrovaille.
Yes, I know my m is ending now. And it $ucks. I have a million challenges there.
But I can still say Retrovaille was a very good experience for us. It was the most I saw my h "getting it" and frankly, it was his breakthrough there that played a huge role in keeping me in the m the past decade.
Just an idea.
For you as an individual, try looking up "Essential Experience" in Philadelphia. There's a website. See what you think.
Though it's not for couples specifically, it always helps the r's in your life b/c it's a profound personal growth workshop. And I think it' s crucial we work on our own issues apart from the marriage
even though the m is affected by our "stuff". It's also "experiential" so you will not sit there in a lecture mode and rehearse or edit your responses.
You will discover things about yourself and, best of all, leave with an action plan.
Hang in there.
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016