I feel like if I'm going to tell him no joint counseling that I mind as well pack his bags

He's a big boy. He can pack his bags all by himself.

Seriously, T, I know you're too close to the situation to see the best route to take. But it's the same as everyone else's. And Thornton is exactly right. It is not a good idea to go to counseling when one spouse is wayward. I know your mind is saying "b-b-b-but!" But NO. Your situation isn't that different from anyone else's.

is it possible to still DB and not go to C together

Oh, yes. Absolutely. But, girl, this is a process (a marathon, not a sprint). And if you're going to bust a D, your H first has to respect you. There is no love without respect ... at least not for long. And that means you have to put your game face on. Trying to shame him or make him feel sorry for you and the kids so that he stays out of guilt or obligation is NOT going to cut it. He might stay a little longer for a while, but certainly not forever. That's a "bridge" built of straw.

You've got your own work to do, too. You might want to sit with the question of why, deep-down, you really and truly want to fight for the kind of H and M that leaves you alone while you're pregnant. The kind of H that leaves his family for a practical child. The kind of H who goes out and gets drunk and has his boss contact you ....

Why don't you *know* you deserve better than that?


M: 40 H: 44
Married 14 years
S11 & D6; D20 & D19 from previous M
2BDs/PAs, 8 years apart
Piecing: April 2014