Struggling

[Tryin2figuritout]

I guess my last question is.... How long do you implement these techniques and pine away for your wife until you are a chump and a doormat?

Jim,

The real objective is to stop pining and start living. In other words, work on yourself and let your wife go on her journey. It's a lot easier said than done.

Jim,

Sorry you're here, but this is good stuff from Doodler. Pining gets you nowhere and definitely makes you unattractive to your W.

Also, all of this is so much easier said than done. You'll go through stages, phases, ups and downs, but this place is a good place to vent, seek advice and even pine.

We're all in different sitch's but all here for you.

Trying