I agree with helies. Actions speak louder than words. From your posts you sound more comfortable talking than doing. Do you always try to explain yourself to your W? Is that helping or hurting your situation?

When my W asked me to move out of the MBR I gave her the I'm not moving out but if you need more space feel free to do so. We're both still there and yes, still having sex. She even moved my stuff out and I moved it back. We never spoke about it.

Re relaxation. I love massages but think that very high intensity exercise does more for releasing anger and promoting fitness. What's your exercise program?


Gordie 40s W 40s M20+ kids
2016 BD W fantasy affair w OM1 I do everything wrong
2017 I start to DB W says TLTL files for D PA w OM2
2018 I do LRT W drops filing and OM2 situation slowly improving