Originally Posted By: brizz
Our stories are very similar, even down the sick grandmother. Just be careful with assigning too much blame on her not holding you accountable. Would it have changed things? Maybe. But you shouldn't have to fear punishment in order to listen to what your wife needs. I'm guilty of having felt this way for a while as well but while it's reasonable to wish she communicated better, you also have to accept you should have listened better to what she did communicate.

Oh, I am very well aware of this now. It's a real shame that something so wonderful has to end because of ignorance and lack of experience. That's so stupid and unfair. I could learn these things with her. My loneliness in my youth bites me in the a55 again, due to not having much female experience, before my wife came along. I suffer the loss of my marriage, as though the loneliness that I suffered before I met my wife wasn't​ enough. That lack of female attention back then burns me again by depriving me of experience, causing my marriage to end, because I hadn't yet learned how to hold on to women. And that lack of female attention in my youth returns me back to the loneliness.

Originally Posted By: brizz
It's good that you're making changes and becoming a more rounded person but do it with the focus on you, not on making your wife possibly see it. It won't be genuine then and she'd see right through it. Judge your progress based on a list of your personal goals instead of a list of your wife's complaints.

I think most of the things she wanted for me, I want and need as well. So I think I am doing what you say here. Does anyone have any goals to suggest to me?


M: 33, W: 30 @BD
M 7, T 10
BD: Early Dec
W left: Late Dec
W got stuff: Late Jan
W sent S papers: Mid Feb
OM cnfrmd: Late Feb

Pain can yield tremendous growth OR everlasting sadness and bitterness.