Her mother ended up telling my W that I was crazy for wanting to know
Blood is always thicker than water.
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but if she is lying to all those people about you being physically abusive then most likely she will just lie to your face about her PA. IMO I think if she was genially sorry then a good place to start would be by honestly answering any questions you may have and telling you the "brutal truth" in regards to her PA. That is, of course, if you want to know these things.
This goes a lot deeper than whats on the surface. She's not sorry, period. Usually by the time the PA happens - and she does the things that was said (there is a HUGE difference between just sex and that with oral included...HUGE) - we are less than nothing to them. That must be kept in mind, too.
There are moments in this life when you are so confident in the rightness of your actions, that not even for a second do you consider the option that you might be wrong.
