Minimal communication. Mainly talk about our s. After dinner and washing up, I often just do my own thing. It's weird and rough at first but I'll be ok.

Following the rules and sandi2's advice are key. Don't allow yourself to be disrespected. Detach. You have to be able to really let go of the possibility that things could be fixed. She really went way too far(not like any of this was ok) but I needed to file for my son's sake. Reconciliation is pretty much impossible.

I'm guessing that's not what you wanted to hear. People come on here to fix their marriages. Some ws' just don't want to change. Not breaking contact, being remorseful, and being willing to help heal are key. Absence of any of those are bad news. I went really far, spent a lot of money on coaching(3), books(lots), and counseling(6). I still see an ic and it's for me. If you can swing it, that can be good but be selective. Don't be shy about firing them. Good luck.


- m and ww in 30s
- s4
- m 11 yrs, t12
-ilybinilwy ~5/16 + request for OM
- bd 7/16, confirm ea and strongly suspected pa
- 9/16 ww claimed to have broken contact with om