I had a lot lined up to say but due to lack of time and the good words from others I will keep this short.

OM is important in all of this. You cannot be seen as accepting of this. As cadet tells many you need to say you will not be in a R with her if there is another person. In your case, this may not be necessary as she has told you her stance and she wants other man.

This is important for several reasons. Firstly any turn around will take longer. Much longer. Secondly how you react affects her opinion of you. It is not what she thinks immediately (as likely to be negative regardless) but what she thinks when she looks back on how you treated her in this crisis.

Waiting her out is not enough. OM could fall away and that does not mean you will reconcile. That is why he isn't your focus. Is your moving to mlc forum a sign you want to wait her out? I am curious not critical.

Your W's hardening as you put it has been five days. Expect it to last and to worsen. I had planned sharing how I supported my checked out W all this time but first I would like to know how YOU see YOUR stance going forward?

Best wishes


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together