Gordie: Pulling it all together

[Gordie]

One more thing: sandi2 has a good discussion of WW vs MLCW. I think the beta male/Mr nice guy/lack of respect seems more common in the WW threads. The MLC seems more independent of the spouse and the MLCW or H needs to go down their own path, which unfortunately appears to be a multi year process usually including infidelity. Many MLCers seem to go through this process and remain married if their LBS wants to stand. In my case, my W appears hell bent on separation and divorce to experience the independence she so desperately desires. What Hearts Blessing and other MLC survivors stress is that the LBS must go through his or her own maturation process or else mistakes will be repeated and R will be impossible.