Just for reference, there are a fair amount of success stories on other forums as well. Those websites have some things in common with DB'ing, but they also have some additional things that I suppose we would call "tactics" here. Confrontation, Exposure, Filing for D having served public, ect. So I have to wonder if these are not viable options. I know we say do what works....but who knows what works without doing them. I suppose my question is how long do I do the method that I am doing now before I move on to a different method such as one of the above options?