Thanks Gordie that gives me reassurance that I am on the right track. I have been try to do stuff like that but it has been a slow progress. I know that my kids will be a big part with me winning my W back but that is not the main reason I am doing stuff with my kids. They will always be my kids no mater what happens between us. I have been trying to talk to them a few times a week but that is hard because of their busy lives. I do text them to let them know that I am thinking of them. They are defiantly warming up to me more though.

W has a closed spirit towards me and have done some reading on that but it will be a slow process. I am following the 37 rules and do not initiate phone calls with her much. I let her do the calling unless it has been about a week from when I have heard from her. I do not believe that going dark is the right thing to do at this point and anyways she will always answer my calls. I do not stay on the phone long and just do a lot of validation. I just tell her that I am calling to see how her and the kids are doing. I treat it more as me being a friend to her right now. It is part of my 180 and something that has seemed to be working and like the DR book says to do what works.

I would appreciate any other feed back on this matter from anyone who has some experience or knowledge on it.


Love is a decision. Genuine love is honor put into action, regardless of the cost.

Me:43 W:41
M:21
SS:25 S:19 D:18
BD1:3/16 BD2:10/16
W moves out 10/2/16