Yes. I agree all of these important conversations should be face to face. Phone is second best. Right now, it seems like she's not open to these discussions, right? Back off and try with the small steps of just building a friendship where she is willing to be in your presence. It seems like you have a decent relationship with the kids. Maybe try to plan a family outing. Can you guys go to church together or to dinner or to an activity and just be civil with no R talks? Once that is safe, can you have one family meal together per week at a restaurant or at your place? From there, maybe you guys can go have a coffee together? Baby steps. No relationship talks--too stressful.
That is what I figured to do and it is nice to get some reassurance. On the W she does not even want to see me witch made Christmas horrible. The kids came over for about 2 hours and left to see other people. I quit asking her to go to church and us going out to do something. When she see me she has a face of anger towards me. She has a lot of bitterness for me. As for the kids I am seeing the more often and our R is getting better and try to take them out to dinner every so often but at their ages they are more interested in their friends and dates. I have not brought up one R talk since she moved out and have become much more validating on the phone. She will always answer my call or call me right back if she doesn't. But I have laid off of calling her as much.
Love is a decision. Genuine love is honor put into action, regardless of the cost.
Me:43 W:41 M:21 SS:25 S:19 D:18 BD1:3/16 BD2:10/16 W moves out 10/2/16
