Ghost,

You must own that choice. I am not sure you do. If you move out with the mindset that you had no choice, it will haunt you. You have the choice to stay or go. You repeatedly state W wants separate living situations.We heard that but she never made it happen. Is she making it happen now? Or is this you?

None of us choose to be in our situations (though I believe ultimately it was choices we made throughout our lives that lead us here, but that is another debate). But now that we are here we still get to choose our path.

I want you to own this decision and turn it into an opportunity. It's a new life about to begin. If you start it by resenting it, it will not work for you.

Get a legally binding agreement in place. After that S or D is just paperwork.If your question was about whether you filing for divorce may wake your W up and shake her into wanting to come back. That could happen but I doubt it would be immediate. Best to just focus on making this the best life possible for you and your kids.

Best wishes and good luck


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together