Him not looking a you and avoiding eye contact is typical of MLCers, my hypothesis is they are feeling (a tiny bit) some kind of guilt or shame (not remorses or regrets), reality is starting to settle down for them, they are now realizing in which "mess" or "reality" they are and it's because of their actions. They still cannot bear the idea of admitting it and own it. No conversation at all about that.

They still not worry about their LBS situation but more about themselves. The best way I found to deal with that it's to back off (no spew, no emotional pressure, no R conversations) so they can start to figure out their situation by themselves not because they are reacting to us. But backing off doesn't mean in any manner to accept any disrespectful behavior, that's where the set up of boundaries are so important, specially if you are living in the same house (no spew, respect, no OW) otherwise ... (you name the consequences, they are up to you).

Those love and hate feelings you are experiencing are totally normal, so get ready for them, they will come and go. Just keep them for yourselves or share them with your friend.

Also Sara, you have 3 kids, so give yourself a break, sometimes it's ok do not nothing just to recover.

Have a good day


Me 52+ WH 57+
Married 20 +
Piecing since 2016 (ready to give up...)