I am keeping you and your daughters in my thoughts and prayers. I do hope that the situation w/your daughter can be taken care of very soon as I know she's an active young lady who loves sports and horseback riding.
As for your xh...it's the holidays and they do come out to play, whether it be in a positive tone or a negative, they do make their presence known. It's very evident that she's attempting to manipulate someone into persuading the girls to contact her...unfortunately, everyone is saying the same thing, i.e., it's the girls decision as to whether they want to be in touch w/her or not. She can't accept the consequences of her actions.
Please let us know how your daughter is doing. We are all praying for her.
Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to. The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
Wow Irish .... hang in there man, given the time of year ... yeah I know mine spun a bit (as job says), her contacting your mom is an ear-perk type thing ... looks like she is not as happy as she was thinking she would be but its all focused on "Why my girls won't talk to me" ... not the "What have I done" just yet but looks like if she keeps at it she may arrive there.
Hope all things considered its all good on your end!
Irish - just want you to know that I am thinking of your daughter, you and your other daughter. Wishing you continued strength. You are a tank!
Me 41, H 47, M 15 yrs, S11, S13 BD 1: 11/4/14 we work on it; really I pretzel myself BD 2: 3/31/15 H goes down to "dorm room" 8/15: H back to MBR 10/15: H back in dorm room 1/18: H files, now divorced
Funny how the mlcer will blame us for illnesses, been there.
Hi Kyh , funny yes. Since day one of this i have been target number one. It kinda rolls off me now. Like a running gag. I chuckle at it and move on
Originally Posted By: kml
She sounds unwell.
yes.. very unwell. I know I can't help her and I try to look the other way so I don't get pulled into her drama. It's the toughest part of all this. Seeing them in such pain. I truly hope she does get help.
Originally Posted By: bttrfly
remember: it's nearing Christmas. Also a full moon tonight
A double whammy... isn't just plain old MLC enough. I guess we get the crazy but I'd rather see it from a far then see what's really spinning in their heads.
Originally Posted By: job
As for your XW...it's the holidays and they do come out to play, whether it be in a positive tone or a negative, they do make their presence known. It's very evident that she's attempting to manipulate someone into persuading the girls to contact her...unfortunately, everyone is saying the same thing, i.e., it's the girls decision as to whether they want to be in touch w/her or not. She can't accept the consequences of her actions.
Hi Job yes, they do come out to play. I got a better hang on things this year though. I slipped up last month because she really hit the heart strings. I assure you I'm back in my own drivers seat.
My mom did repeat to XW that the girls are hurt and that they are teens. It is not as easy as she thinks and that the girls just won't forgive and forget. XW will one day will hopefully accept this.
Originally Posted By: CaliGuy
looks like she is not as happy as she was thinking she would be but its all focused on "Why my girls won't talk to me" ... not the "What have I done" just yet but looks like if she keeps at it she may arrive there.
I'm hoping for the girls sake that XW does finally see the light so to speak and start to rebuild their trust and gain their forgiveness as she accepts her role in all this. It is all I want for Xmas ( if i was to make a wish )
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small update. D14 had a good day. no episodes. She is keeping calm and not over doing anything now that she understand the triggers to the symptoms.
I have a buddy who's daughter started working at one of the children hospitals in the neighboring city. She is close to 3 of the top neurosurgeons at that hospital. She has my D14 file and will get things moving. I am blessed I have a good entourage. I thank God everyday for that. This should move us through the system a lot faster.
As for XW . a small but nice message from her . She apologized for blaming me for D14 illness. She says she was wrong in saying that.
I thanked her and told her that I know she didn't mean it and I appreciate her apologizing.
later this morning a second text message came in. She said she was listening to a radio show about separated parents raising kids. That the adults should keep the children as stable as possible. Like as if the child was jumping rope with each parents holding the ends to help the child not miss a jump. To do it as a team even though they were at separate ends.
I took a long time to reply to her. But simply wrote.
That would be amazing if our separation was a normal one. What we are living is not normal. The child must trust that both parents are able to continue to spin the jumping rope at the same time and speed. Our timing is currently off so it's hard for the child to be able to jump rope. One day I hope this will happen but its not today.
** Don't forget to help anyone you can this Xmas. If it's donating a few cans of soup to the food bank or cleaning out that closet to donate it to the local homeless shelter. If we all do a little it does go a long way.**
Irish
M51 XW43 (38 at bd) BD1 MAY 30 2015 BD2 JUNE 25 2015 by text moved out Aug 2 2015 left both Daughters 13 and 15 (now 18-20) Her divorce Final July 26 2016 Last time she saw her kids Aug 2 2015
your reply to her was thoughtful and much kinder than she deserves, given her recent behavior, but you are that kind of a man. Very proud of you, my friend. xoxoxoxo
M 20+ T25+ S ~15.5 (BD) BD 4/6/15 D 12/23/16
"Someone I loved once gave me A box full of darkness. It took me years to understand, That this too, was a gift." ~ Mary Oliver
No advice. Just best wishes from one Irish to another!
R 25 years M 14 years S11 & S13 Working on it alone since Oct 2014 M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years) Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr. Next R chat Aug'17 Still together
Irish, thanks for posting on my thread. I’ve been keeping up with yours, even though I don’t post much. I’m glad your daughter has her symptoms under control until she can get the proper treatment. I hope that this will be taken care of and she will have a normal and happy life and will be able to do what she loves. I’m sure you will do whatever it takes to achieve that. She is very fortunate to have a Dad like you, Irish.
As for your XW… I kind of feel sorry for her… She is trying to pull all kinds of excuses and justifications for her behavior, and especially not being there for the girls… But… it will eventually come to a realization… that there is nobody else who she can make responsible for what she’d done. I think she knows that, and this is why she tries to justify her behavior over and over again. This must be exhausting… I find it interesting that whatever she hears on the radio or gets from some different sources about the marriage and divorce, she runs it by you. I think she is going through a painful process of discovering herself, or whatever it is… I’m glad your daughters have you! You are the rock!
I can’t wait for the good news about your D14, Irish! I hope you have great holidays!
M:50 H:52 S28 (my S from previous marriage) M:17 + 3 BD: 06/12 S: 06/12 - H works in another state
thanks for your best wishes to my D14 on her health.
I'll start with her since she is my priority.
She is doing well. Not one episode since she figured out the triggers. We are on the fast track at the hospital so I got a few calls yesterday and today assuring me that there is no danger. D14 will be perfectly fine. No rush to operate and we will see the doctors in the New year. Feeling a lot better now.
I messaged XW with the details even though she doesn't ask for them. I've been told by many to not update her at all. If she doesn't ask don't update. I only do it because I don't want to be called out as the guy that doesn't update the mother of the D's. Maybe 2017 I will just end that thinking and let her do all the asking before I update. There you go my first resolution.
Well I messaged her the details. No comment on any of it. Only to tell me shes going to her mom's in Florida for a couple of days with OM. That she didn't get anything for the girls for Xmas and will probably email them a message later on when she has time.
So it will be quiet and peaceful for Xmas with her out of the country. That's all I wanted :-)
Wishing you all a merry Christmas, happy Hanuka, Joyeux Noel, and all the best for the New Year. I think many new chapters will start for many of us.
Irish
M51 XW43 (38 at bd) BD1 MAY 30 2015 BD2 JUNE 25 2015 by text moved out Aug 2 2015 left both Daughters 13 and 15 (now 18-20) Her divorce Final July 26 2016 Last time she saw her kids Aug 2 2015
Hi Irish, thank you for all the love and support the last little bit here on my thread. {{{{{{{xoxoxo}}}}}}}
I'm glad your daughter has this under control and you are fast tracked. Not sure what to say about x ... just say a prayer, I guess. What else is there to say, really?
OTOH, I'm glad you got your Christmas wish! Joyeaux Noel! xoxoxo
M 20+ T25+ S ~15.5 (BD) BD 4/6/15 D 12/23/16
"Someone I loved once gave me A box full of darkness. It took me years to understand, That this too, was a gift." ~ Mary Oliver