You too Sotto. I don't know why W fixates on my "pain" as we have no contact and she knows nothing about me nor I her. The only thing she knows is that I have told her it doesn't work for me to meet up with her. I've changed my profile to a happy smiling group photo from today so let her think on that for a change! As for her relationship with S, it does sadden me but it is the result of 15 years where her interests, activities and lifestyle came first for her, even her family always said that I brought him up. So sadly she's reaping the reward.