Me and my 2 daughters

[Irish M]

I find it quite interesting that she texts you but emails the girls.

Hi HaWho, good hearing from you :-)
Yes she emails them due to the fact she cancelled their phones she was paying for a year ago. I since got them new phones but the girls refuse me to give her their numbers. She has their Facebook, twitter, the home phone and good old fashion mail to connect if she so wishes to.

Before I answer on the invite you really do have to clarify if there will be any Guinness there...

Yes Guinness will be flowing. Not to worry for the other beer drinkers i do keep a good variety available.

I can bring "real" Canadian beer and perhaps some german garlic sausages for the BBQ. PS - I'm very proud of your girls.

Hi Andrew, I'm actually reading your sitch. It's tough man. keep moving forward.
I am in Canada so I'm good on the Canadian beer. The German sausage however.. i'll put you down for that.

I too am very proud of my girls. I hope they get through this and learn from it. The cycle has to stop here.

Let's face it, Irish, our spouses know us well. They know how to manipulate and push and pull until they get a reaction.

Hi bttrfly xox
Yes they do know us. It's a huge weapon for them. We know them as well but we know the version they were and not the version they are today. Huge set back. That is why it is so key. I wrote that down somewhere on my hand but it keeps washing off so I forget. Maybe a 180/GAL tattoo on my wrist would help.

Her reaching out seemed like a little bit of all that was mentioned
-her checking up to see who this new woman was
-her frustration and grief about the lack of R with Kids
-her not knowing if she made a mistake or not admitting it yet
-her seeing if you still loved her and was waiting for her to come home
-holidays and loneliness

Hi Peace xox

no clue because we are not mind readers right lol

Well XW did message me today. 3 parts

-1- she says that she felt used. Wiped bums, cleaned, cooked, was a taxi, unappreciated and unwanted. We treated her as a rag that we would dispose of. She felt so much pain, even thought of killing herself. Now she is in therapy to deal with it all.

I can not understand her mind at all on this. I know they invent new history and its all bad to them. But WOW. She is really so far from the truth. OK parents all change diapers, clean, drive their kids to party's and school. Isn't that part of life. I love doing it. And to one day see them grown and have families of their own. It's all good to me.

-2- she brings up the pre-crisis of 10 years ago. 1/4 crisis. Her cheating. How I was jealous after that and needed validation. How it made her sick. Says she shouldn't of swept it under the rug and we should of focused on therapy and dealt with it. If the therapist wasn't good, find one that will help us. We owed that to ourselves.

Now i presume this is relationship talk of past. She needs to clean her conscience.
I am just validating and not throwing all the crap she did. No attacks.

-3- Her mom opened up to her more about her own issues as a child. That when XW turned 38 it all came back to XMIL and she felt the need to fill my XW in with all her troubled life.

So both are in therapy

It ended there because I turned my phone off for the day.

I'm going out to take some amazing pictures of the foliage. This is the final week then the snow will start to fall. I am looking forward to Xmas this year.

Irish