Everyone that comes here have the odds stacked against them. Otherwise we would not need to be here. But being here improves those odds. We stop doing what pushes them away and do what could attract them back. Plus we have a support and advice network to get us through the harder moments.

Being here helps, but it is our actions that make the biggest difference. Some people do everything right and fail to save their M. Right now I think the best thing you could do is to let go completely. That does not mean shut yourself off from reconciling but living as if it won't happen.

Since we have been here, every single turnaround had that detail. Look at poohbear's thread for another example

I would like the vets opinion on the stats above.

I know a M saving program where the guy states that if you continue to do the right things that eventually it is inevitable that you get t9 reconcile.MMaybe he is right but I doubt most people keep standing the years it may require. It is up to you if you wait, but how you wait is most important.Embrace life. Live.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together