I appreciate your response and it makes perfect sense. I'm not giving up hope though (no "but" Mr Bond). I still love this woman with all of my heart. I too think it's a MLC from what I've read. It seems like she's well into the replay stage. I'm trying to be loving, patient and understanding, although I'll never fully " understand" this. I'm sorry your M ended in D. If you don't mind me asking BWorl, how is your exW now? Do you have a relationship? Also, what do you mean the ending is really up to me.