Originally Posted By: nutts
Originally Posted By: j20a00g
You obviously haven't been doing much reading. Perhaps another method may suit you as opposed to DB? You truly have a shot at doing what works and it working! Based on all the readings and my experience of finding the resources apparently too late, I can say with confidence that each day you appear to be digging a bigger hole. Laying with her, all the chit chat, telling her you love her, etc and that was just today! If that's giving her space then dang man, I would hate to see your clinginess.


Hi j20a, I understand what you were saying, but I was simply testing the waters there. That was the 1st time I had told her that in weeks, and the 1st time I had laid down with her as well. I don't think it was a good test for me, so I do need to continue to give her space.

As always, appreciate the advice, even the tough love kind!



You are nowhere near "testing the waters" stage. You have months before that happens if it happens. You view it as testing the waters, it comes off as clingy and smothering. Not everything in the process is for you. You are making this all about you. Keep reading bud. My advice until you finish reading is to do nothing but read. Ten read again. And then when you have the urge to test waters or ask to be intimate or cuddle or bring up relationship talks, come here first!


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M-10, T-18
2D (8 and 5)
Ilybinilwy-1/16
EA/PA- 7/15-present (with my former best friend)
Trial apartment-2/16 (also when she considers us separated)
W moved out-8/16
W Filed 11/21/16
D final 1/30/17