FWIW, my W tries to place blame on me -- I think it's hard for a W who bails to say, Yep, it's all on me, I did it.

We LBS are of course 50% responsible for the marriage, but we're not talking about marriage. We're talking about divorce. For that the spouse who decides to bail -- without meaningful, cooperative effort to make it work -- is responsible.

I keep thinking about a story I read in the NY Times about how marriages are difficult. In the story, a wise relative gives this advice: "The way to stay married is to not get a divorce."

Anyway, that conversation with your D9 ... oh man .... I hate that your W is so flippant about it. The idea of it ... feels like death to me.


Me: 50, MLC/WW 45
Young kids
Nov 2015: BD1
Apr 2016: BD2
Jan 2017: W filed
Feb 2017: D final