Hi Job, AndrewP, Jer2911, fightOn and Altair, thanks so much for your posts especially your examples of your H's and W's not sleeping. I am comforted (in a strange way) to know it's just not us LBS's who suffer from insomnia! I expect if my H had FB and I actually bothered to post anything he would see me up at all times of the night/ early morning!

If they feel so guilty about what they have done why does it take them such a long time to contact us or process what they have done? Is it because through that guilt they still feel justified?

It's interesting because it got me thinking that when I first met H he had lived on his own in a very small studio flat. He had trouble sleeping then and could only fall asleep with the TV on! He said he thought it was because he was lonely and had too much time in his own company. I can imagine if he is feeling guilty as well he definitely won't be sleeping much in his own bed!

Job - I've heard that there are three types of MLCers - drop-outs, drop-ins and droplets. Would you be able to advise what the difference is. I think I understand that the drop-out just goes and doesn't contact at all?

AndrewP, it's always great to hear from you, please keep posting! I am currently catching up on your threads over here so will be over to your pad once i know what's been going on in your sich!

Altair - fancy seeing you here! It actually is ok going dark. I think I prefer it to seeing him every now and again. It just brings it all back when he leaves. I saw over on your thread that you have seen him a few more times?

Me - 47
H - 45
D-16
M - 6 years
Separated - May 16

Don't leave me behind can't you see me I'm shining... (Years & Years - 'Shine')