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Went to my sons cub scout meeting tonight where I got a little depressed. Saw several moms and dads there with their sons tonight and of course my mind wanders to my M or lack there of. I had a hard time concentrating and I was really frustrated at myself but I couldn't focus on anything else. I also was checking out the mom's at the meeting (not in a sexual way) and they don't remind me of my W anymore. These women seemed to be mom's first regardless of their careers and I can't see my W that way anymore. A couple of months ago I could see my W at one of these meetings interacting with the kids and giving it her full attention. Now I think if she went she would spend the whole time on her phone texting or scrolling through facebook.


Moms at cub scouts. I was right there with you until I got to the second paragraph...and saw she was at home with your 2 year old.

Even if you guys were doing great, one of you would have been home with your two year old.

Even if she had gone she would have been texting...mind reading, and if your going to do that make it good. Even if she had gone, she would have been painting pentagrams and trying to summon devils to rain down vengeance on the enemies of the pack. THAT sounds cooler.

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I don't even know what started the conversation, but she tells me there are about 4 or 5 guys that consistently flirt with her. She said she doesn't know why, maybe it was all the weight she has lost. I wanted to say it might be the weight but it also might be the fact that you dress like you're going to the clubs/bars instead of going to work, but I kept my mouth shut.


Glad you kept your mouth shut.
Sounds like she might be fishing for a compliment from you, I forget is that one of her complaints about the past?

Every interaction you have is a possible opportunity.

"Maybe because you dress like your going out to a club with $5 pitchers."

or

"You're a beautiful woman, I can certainly understand why."

or

nothing.

One costs you. One gains you. One is status quo.


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I know she really doesn't want anything to do with me


The way you describe your weekends and that fact that she talks with you...sort of makes that untrue.

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My W made a comment to me last night that I act like everything is fine. I think she means that I am usually in a good mood around her and I interact with her. I don't know what she trying to say and maybe I shouldn't have said anything, but I told her everything was not fine. I told her if everything was fine we wouldn't be living like we are living.


OMG...

Eagle,

with hindsight...

can you come up with a better response in your post below this?

OK so here are a few tricks that served me well.

First piece of advice is from Thumpers Mom.

"If you can't say something nice STFU!" I think thats what she said or something to that effect.

Practice things you are going to say. I mean it practice, say them outloud to yourself. Have a PLAN of how you are going to respond instead of letting your instinct take over, because your instinct wants to remind her with little barbs that you are hurting and this suckss. AND yes it suckss (haha censor!).
But you are going to show her that you are making the best of
a bad situation with grace and dignity.



Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis

Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans

Listen without defending; Speak without offending - FaithinAK

TRUST THE PROCESS - Cadet