I almost always agree with you, but I have to object to the idea that the majority of men don't know how to handle their kids. If they don't know, they can learn.

(Now, I fully agree that what Cld is proposing is nonsense. I just think you aren't giving ,en enough credit as parents.)

Me: 44
H: 44
Kids: 20, 16, 16, and 10
Together/Married: 22 years
H announced he was emotionally detached and considering D: 4/4/16
H announced he is going to try to stay and reconnect: 5/1/16