SD, You are right about we English - its in our nature to put up and shut up. I try and try again, hoping that next week it will be different. I like the idea of the 'just do it anyway' approach. That appealed to me in the book. Not for selfish reasons but because I believe that my GF is one of those who's head follows the body rather than the reverse. She thinks she has to be in the mood, which never comes and I'm sure from previous experiences that she does actually enjoy it once she gets started. She just forgets that before the next time! Now I've just got to get past the "Why should I be forced to do something I don't feel like doing?" objection.