I have no control over the actions of others, I only have control over myself.

ForGump, I respect you and what you say about your spouse, you know more you than I do as albac pointed out. I will suggest to you though that you are missing the fundamental point of DB'ing. The fight is for self, not your woman. That's the point. That is the genius of MWD. She says something in one of her youtube videos to the effect of "...and I feel sorry for the women who don't come back tho these guys because they are really getting good." Not an exact quote but close to what she meant.

Surfer and I were pretty tough up above. This was not chest beating though. This is not because we are stronger, or more courageous. This was trying to rally you guys to self. Again, DB'ing at our level is about making the change in you and if your spouse notices and/or if you care at that point that she notices, you are a better person nonetheless - permanent change.

She sounds worth letting go of to you, why not do it in a healthy way? If she is not worth it to you than tell me "She does not deserve me. I have risen above her level. I am the man I can be proud of for me." You words above sound like you believe what she has been saying, and we know from the rules, believe nothing they say and half of what they do. That rule is there for a reason, not to convince you to not fall for their lies, but to convince you to not fall deeper into their spell.

Tell me a good story about yourself from the recent past. Change subjects, what have you done fun recently? You like music, I recently went through some back tracks of a studio jazz band I played in about six years ago. I play the bass and hand drums. Do you play an instrument, or just have a love for music?


"There is no more important fight than the one for ourselves. Keep on winning." Ginger1, Read her newbies.
BD: Feb '16
D: Mar '17
Piecing: Putting the self back together was my piecing.
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