Jack please let me know which males have been waiting here for more than 3 years for instance and I will follow their thread.
You're looking for the magic bullet, you think that these guys who have waited longer than 3 years have the secret.
Here is the secret: The guys who stayed married, did the same exact things that those who didn't stay married. They worked on themselves and waited, not waited doing nothing, waited and GALed.
They saw the problems in themselves that was a part of their marriage falling apart.
This isn't ALL the MLCer, that's not what you want to hear, but its true. We all, all of us, screwed up a part of our marriage. The successful ones worked on the problems they brought to it, whether or not they stayed married.
The ones who stayed married, hell most of them at the end almost didn't want to, but they did.
Find them yourself. They are in the archives. A lot of them don't post anymore because they put their time in and being here is a reminder of a bad time in their life.
It's really hard to help someone who thinks they know everything.
I'll leave you alone here, but I'm going to say something on other's people threads if you are givingthem bad or arrogant advice.
Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis
Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans
Listen without defending; Speak without offending - FaithinAK
