W is hitting below the belt too. Love it. Hey, I was just reading Sandi2 description of WW and WAW. W seems to have both attributes almost equally. Won't leave kids, lots of lies, always angry. Won't go to counseling. Never seen anything positive in the marriage. Blames me for everything. Even the most basic things I do are wrong. Shows hatred in facial expressions. condescension. She's noticed changes but doesn't care. Too little to late.

going on 7 months now. Things seem even worse now than prior to the S? with few exceptions - I've been a pretty decent guy since S. Pursued - but not strongly. She's gotten meaner? Cheerleader friends/family? Looking back. Her attitude really got bad around holidays last year and is full steam ahead.

Possible demeanor change - Super tough career, Menopause, kids leaving home, our R, meds?

Any insights?


H49 W51
M 21
4 kids