Thanks cadet. That one line makes a huge impact. Having someone else notice she could be depressed is good. I avoid labelling and essentially that changes nothing in real terms, except somehow it does for me.

As for your other point,are you suggesting I should raise my warning to Max and let her know she is losing me? I imagine most of what Michelle wrote is for lbs as we are mostly her audience. The defcon alert was I think in relation to WAS who's lbs never knew because they never understood the messages/warnings.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together