Originally Posted By: qt4x11
Do you guys really think I have any hope in h3ll with my wife?

Yes. Likely not today. Or tomorrow. But at some point in the indeterminate future? yes.

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
She basically told me to my face that it's over. And she made it abundantly clear she does not care how much pain I'm going through right now, she wants nothing to do with me.

This only matters if you believe what she says. When you got married, did you ever think she would feel this way about you? Whats to say at some point in the future those feelings wont change?

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
She is the one who gave up on me, who is causing this trauma to my family. She's the one who has been so selfish and uncaring and downright vindictive in the divorce?

My wife is the one that is out. She gave up on the M. I never wanted this. There is no 'moral high ground' to waiting around for the off chance she could change her mind.

And how is what you are doing/planning to do any different?

I would say that you are "giving up on the M" as well, just on a slightly different timeline.

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
I deserve to be happy

Of course you do. But if you dont think you can lead a happy life without going on dates, then I think you still have some work to do on your own.

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
Right now, I feel like I need to let my wife go and live my life.

Wholeheartedly agree. But Im not sure that means you should be going out looking for her replacement at this point.

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
That sounds like waiting around for your wife, just because you were doing your 'hobbies' and 'working on yourself' doesn't mean you weren't also waiting.

I suppose, in some sense, yes, this has to be true. But it's more waiting to start a new relationship until you are finished with the old one. It isnt so much waiting for your W to change her mind....it's more about waiting for yourself to be ready to start something new. It's up to you in how long you are willing to burn that candle. But I wouldnt expect that dating someone new will bring you closer to a goal of reconciling.

Originally Posted By: qt4x11
How was the celibacy? Sounds fun.

So is this the root of the issue? You are just looking to get some action?