Oh, and re the ring question, I agree it should be only about what YOU want to communicate (to yourself and the outside world). If you make a move or don't make a move with an eye toward how it will impact your W, you'll get into a negative loop where, if she doesn't react the "right" way, you'll feel worse. I say this not judgmentally at all, but more as an oft-burned guy who's gone down the wrong road many times.
Me: 46 W: 44 Married: 17 Together 21 D13; S10 BD: 03.03.15 (Not attracted to you) Almost 2 years trying, alone, to save marriage Status now: Divorced (effective 06.13.17)
