Hey Fogg,

Why would I need to D? because I think she wont. I also can see now there is no hope. She has a new circle of friends, she has a new life with out me, she has new memories and conversations that I am not a part of.

I can see that I am out of her life and she has no problem with that.

I am not saying that I will file right now. I will hold off to give this living apart time to settle. But after reflecting and time apart and seeing how she treated me and the way she handled her anger wards me and the lies. This is not some one I want to be with. Even as hard as that is to say because of what I wanted month before, this is what was trying to be told to me in this forum in the early days. Love from my side is not enough it has to come from both and W did not love me the way a H deserves to be loved.

And because I want to love again. I can not open my heart to someone else while still married to another. It has been over a year with our sex, almost three years with out a sober kiss. I deserve something better that this.


Me late 30's
W mid 30's
T 15, M 10
S4, S7
ILYBNILWY June 2015
In house S July 2015
W rings off Oct 2015
My ring off Feb 2015
Separate houses June 2016