Job, I think you're absolutely right. I'm feeling desperate because she's moving and it's wishful thinking on my part as it's tearing me up. On top of what you mentioned about counseling, my w was raped a couple years before we met (didn't tell anyone because she was afraid her parents would make her leave college and come back to their unhappy home) and she got a bad counselor and another later (according to her) so I think she is extra reluctant to seek help. The attorney mentioning this is also trying to deal with an irrational person but I understand where she's coming from. And maybe it's best because a counselor might just tell her to cut it off at this point depending on what she says.

Esame, thanks for stopping in. Sorry, I haven't been to good about posting on your (or others) threads. I read them on the regular but dont comment too much. I'm praying things work out well with the guardian attorney's decision as it will determine where the kids will be to start school. I'm really anxious for my next meeting with her.

W seems to be all over the place again (or still) this week. I sent some pics of us skating this weekend and no reply. We usually send kid pics, tell each other thanks, etc. and communication stops there. Then talking to kids yesterday she mentioned wanting to see them skating (my sister told me she asked her if she could get them skates for d's bday before she moved out and she told her no, they weren't coordinated enough...projection as this is what she says about herself). I told her how well they were doing, especially d, and we were going again this week and she was welcome to come watch. She texted back that it sounded good and she might have to get her own pair and joked how it would be scary (whaaat, I've been trying to get her to ski/ice skate since we've been together and she says she can't).

Tonight when she texted before calling I told her we were going Friday (originally planned Wednesday but I found out it is closed) and about a letter from library I got. She has a bunch of overdue books in the kids names. I had to buy one last week for son's account and paid her late fees so they didn't go to collections. I got another notice for d today and had to pay late fees and recheck them so she wouldn't have to buy them all and have it go to collections. I let her know and she got an attitude...so frustrating. I guess next time I will just let it go. She didn't say anything to me about coming to see the kids skate but I heard her mention it go s, so we'll see.