Quote: Choc, There are going to be instances where the other person doesn't become more motivated sexually or intimatly.
GEL, I'm looking for instances where they do. ANY ongoing successes where the changes were lasting, and precipitated by only ONE of the spouses "getting it" and starting the ball rolling. All I've EVER seen on here are very few successes, and these seem to SOLELY be ones where BOTH the husband and wife realize they have a problem, are willing to work on it, and attack it -- together (see NOPs').
The so-called "successes" that were started SOLELY by the higher-desire spouse just never seem to work, other than short-term, and usually involve the HD spouse hitting the "end of their rope" and threatening to leave.
That's just my observation; please correct me if I'm wrong.