Sorry, but I'm with CeMar on this one. You yourself just said:
Quote: Cemar, it is all about changing yourself. You change yourself for the better, and she'll be forced to change.
So what CeMar is looking for (and frankly, I am too), are examples of where the HD partner "changes themselves for the better," and then the LD/ND spouse is forced to make changes as a result. And I'm NOT talking about an LD/ND spouse who has an "epiphany" and realizes what their issues have been and then decides to MUTUALLY work on it, I'm talking about when only the HD partner initiates the journey and it results in both of them working at it, together.
It seems that even our Board's most noble heroes' successes are faux and short-lived. Every time someone supposedly "succeeds" at this, they come back later to tell us all that "it's over."
Confrontration and self-improvement take courage and motivation. Some of us are looking for demonstrable successes to give us that courage and motivation we need to attack our marriage libido issues.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see any. I honestly wish I did, but I don't.
