I don't mind the hi-jack. I love it when people come over and have interesting, lively discussions at "my house".

On the door cracked open or closed shut, that is an individual's choice. We all have to act in accordance with what we feel is within us to do based upon what we think we see or don't see happening with our spouse.

I see H is working on some issues, including some very bad deep hurt and feelings of not being good enough. But he is working. That's enough for me to not shut the door.

Doodler, your W has some huge issues to work on and maybe doesn't quite grasp that she does. I agree with Job that articles on ea or self help books will be ignored...for now.

I'm guilty of giving my H a book early on which I'm sure he tossed. That's why as much as my latest reading applies to him and is actually designed to help guys who are like him, I can only use that book to understand him and maybe guide him better when I'm validating or listening by being aware of what he's saying. I'm not closing the door yet because he STILL says things that let me know he is changing and trying to seek my "approval".

Sometimes its a waiting game. I'm pretty well known for my patience...hopefully I can be strong, too. smile


M-51 H-54
2D-27 and 25
M-26 yrs
Bombshell and IHS 7-29-15
He moved out 10-3-15
D filed 1-27-16
D final 10-27-16

Kindness, kindness, kindness.