Hi Again, And another thing I don't get about all this. Ok, I must admit, I am cycling between really sad and crying and raging angry. Now in the angry bit. How is it that he can think after 15.5 years together that all our M warrants is a note he left and a text and an email in terms of why he left? None of which told me in any real detail why he took such an extreme action? In the note he said 'you say you've changed. I don't experience that. I can't handle the stress on top of the other (work) stress.' The email just said -'I'm done. You can't fix this and I won't process this.' Don't I deserve more than that? Doesn't our R and history deserve more than that? Is this cause hunting. oh dear. I'll shut up now. sorry for the ranting. I am so frustrated as I feel he is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So much happiness is possible if we could get through this and learn and grow from it. But he just seems stuck in his mind on the past and that it could never be different. That's the scary thing. I feel he is stuck in his mind on a fixed idea about our M. I did read something useful the other day by some online marriage site - Don't try to get your WAS to undo a decision they made in the past but to hopefully make a new decision in the future. I will hold onto that for today. bye and thanks, bon soir. a bientot.