Hi again, I reread through your thread but thought I'd post here again. Again, I'm sorry for your situation, I know how hard this is for both for you and you sons. My parents separated several times while I was growing up so I've kind of felt this from different angles in a way even though idt their's were mlc. I always swore I would never let it happen to me and my family from a young age, unfortunately we can only do so much and have no control over others and here I am. However, our situations are different from mine growing up and your sons are truly lucky to have a you as their rock!

There is so much all of our mlc situations have in common its eerie. Yeah, what's up with the pillow thing? I think others have mentioned it too, it must be hard-wired in their brains. I think your h saying you kicked him out is him making you to be the bad guy for his own mind's sake. I know my w played a similar tune. And yes, maybe it is better we don't see them moving out but it is faint-hearted. I guess it shows how hurt our spouses really are, they don't have the tools they need. After the sting, it's little things like not having our friend's baking dish that I used a lot or d's microphone stand (she was looking for it here and only used it with me) that still upset me though.

Following your thread too and you've got good advice. Will be thinking of you, Take care!


Kinda weird but I got out my laptop to reply last night. I saved an old picture with our friend that I got off our old hard drive after our friend passed to the desktop. I opened it and there was a lady in it that now I can see was in mlc. She was a client where they worked and prob 20 years older than w and friends and was including herself in their plans all the time. They all thought it was bizairre and her behaviour was ridiculous. I remember being embarrassed when she was out with us. Now w has become her! I wish w could see that. Nothing to talk about really, just struck me as strange.