Originally Posted By: Zephyr
ofp,

what have you read on true narcassism...like NPD?

I have read the personality traits on many sites. The major one being lack of empathy. I thought I was fairly good at empathy, and think it is the W who lacks it. W accused me of it though, a few months before BD. She doesn't meet enough of the traits to qualify either, except the lack of empathy part.

Not sure exactly what the question is, if you could clarify it I may be able to answer better.

Talking to FF, she said her opinion is that I am the opposite of it also.

Originally Posted By: Zephyr
she will not trust you, because thst is what SHE would do. we expect people to behave like we would.

Ironic, I was thinking the exact same thing just a few minutes ago.

This is another of the screwed up things in our M. I was always a 100% open book. I trusted her, she didn't trust me. She was accusing me of cheating repeatedly, I had never done anything suspicious but she has, 2-3 times, no concrete proof though.

Going into the D, I tried to make the list as fair as possible, figured she would have a different perception and that I would make concessions to make it feel more fair to her. Nope, she went all out with greed. So much for that!

Originally Posted By: Zepher
this is just one of many reasons why this is soooo hard.

as for your last question...IMHO, there is no chance for a lasting relationship right now, now while she has not faced her past and grown from these experiences nor have you cleaned up your side of the fence...how would this relationship be any different, know what i mean? so focus your energy on you....even 10% of your focus on her is 10% that would otherwise be used in making you into the man u want to become!!!

I agree 100% that she wouldn't be ready... Nor willing. Will she ever be?

I have no idea how to work on my stuff without practice?

Uh oh... I'm still focusing 95% of the energy on her side of the fence... It should be under 10%?