Sorry for all the typos! She rang me after the school meeting, she sounded very down. She said it had gone well but it was difficult to talk about S when she doesn't have a relationship with him. I said at least she now knows what he is going to do and to take care, less then a minute on the phone. I'm glad I didn't go as she was relying on me to do the talking while she smiled and charmed. I feel empathy despite everything but a reality check has to happen from time to time.