Thank you Biz. I think it is awesome that we can help others through posting our experiences. Glad to hear you signed up for martial arts classes! Mine is this Friday and I can't wait! Had another R talk and W said that she is going through a lot of pain. She doesn't trust me, due to not having told her about cheating 9 years ago. W said that some days she's ok and somedays just remembers it (my cheating) and gets angry. She reiterated that she has said a lot of healing to do and she has to be alone in order to do it. She said I was very self centered throughout the M. I agreed (it's sorta true although I was really sacrificing a lot for the family). I said I was sorry for cheating and for not telling her sooner. W apologized for putting me down so much in thr the MR. W said that she doesn't like who she became over here past year. Doesn't want an R, but maybe the fog is lifting?