hi all, thanks for the replies - very much appreciated.

I'm pretty much going to say "no thanks" to all her requests to share family time now, unless she has the kids and it's something I want to do. As you have all said I understand she now needs to know practically what a D will be like.

W has only mentioned D at counselling, and that was in response to question from counsellor about what to do next - she was unsure about what the next thing would be.
She knows I do not want that, but I know it may require her to be staring it in the face before she "wakes up".
Family are suggesting I serve her - I can do this in a less confrontational way by getting legal protections set up for what would happen to kids/home/finances. I may need to take her to mediation to get this arranged as she does not bring any of this up, and the last R chat left me pretty certain she is still in MLC mode.

Regarding photos I'm annoyed at her request when she regularly denies me any more contact than I have already (I'm not going to her place to "share" her time) - I get a couple of hours w kids in the week and a day and a half at weekends. I feel like saying she walked away from all that when she left this house. She also still has possessions here - not sure if this bothers me or not.

I suppose my next step is to see a lawyer and try and get "protected" for when the next step comes.


M 10, T 18
M: 36, W: 35, D: 8, S: 6
EA: Oct 12
ILYBINILWY: Jan 15
BD: Aug 15
Separated: Sep 15
Miss you: Jun 16
Aug 16: Dating (!)
Oct 16: Selfishness returns...
currently: disgusted