I only read the first page, but it sounds exactly like what I'm dealing with right now. Neither of us have moved out yet

Havn't started my own thread yet, just been reading a lot and I'll agree, these dbING steps seem like the exact opposite of what you should be doing.

But my wife talks to me now in more than grunts and we can have a conversation now. And last week was the first time that she said she wants to try.

I don't follow some of the rules because those few rules are what she is upset about.

Wish I had some advice to offer but I'm lost also.

Keep up the good fight man.

Slow and steady wins the race.