Sandi2: Thanks for the post above it was really helpful. I hope Flight felt that too.

For the first time in weeks the W has initiated some more than surface/functional conversation and some relationship talk too. I'm doing an OK job at limiting the length and the topics. As opposed to the past where we would have the same convo over and over and over.

There are a couple of items that needs some input - please help anyone.

1 - She did say that she feels a lot of guilt about breaking up the home etc, etc. I simply responded - I'm sorry to hear that . If it comes up again, I'll try and validate and say that must be very hard on you - is that right? From other posts I've read it seems that the guilt the WW/WAW has can be a double edge sword. Are there any strategies on how to manage/respond to her guilt?

2 - She did say very briefly that she has thought about ways to "keep it all together" but has not come up with anything. I can't remember how I responded - I'm hoping it was neutral if not the right way. I think I was so in shock that she said anything remote to that. I'm afraid to bring it up again - as I don't want to leave myself open to rejection i.e. She could say "Oh no that was a dumb idea - it will never happen" Again, I'm right to stay away from that. I'm guessing bringing it up would be pursing.

3 - We are supposed to have regular meetings about $. I'm not going to nag her but I'll be direct. Our money meeting tonight at 8 does that work? Obviously most issues about $ are emotional. We have lots of issues around $. Any ideas on how to use $ as an issue for change. I'm taking some 180 ideas into the meeting i.e. Doing things with money that we've never done - but would like some other ideas/help.


M:50
W:53
MR:20
D:21
S:17
S:11
BD-Sept 2015
Suspected PA Sept 2015-Confronted W & OM Dec 2015
Actually EA
In house Sep:Jan/16-May 2016
W moved out:May 22 2016
OM-Intro Oct/17-On scene July/Aug 2017