Just a different twist here...as for the C talk, I keep seeing the same "cheeseless" conversations going on; how about something different next time it is brought up? When your W says that the C can't make her love you, why not try and say something like, "that is true but the C may be able to help us figure out where to go from here" or "well, maybe they could help us get through this anger that we have and at least be amicable for the kids". Not sure if it will help things but may give a different taste in her mouth. She keeps bringing up love and obviously she doesn't want to be "forced" into that scenario, hence the drawn back to you concept, but tell her that a C can help for various other reasons as well.

Just my 2 cents Merrick...my experience w/MC is zilch but we are going to seek help on how to live "apart" (which is different from separated, how???). Anyway, I am hopeful that my C will give us insight to the underlying issues and help us both see what we've done to the R and with any luck, my H will see how much of a boob he's been these past few yrs! (sorry-little venting) Worth a shot!!

And btw-GO Orioles!!!!! Tootles.............


Karen