bigybiz: My thoughts are have one conversation where you propose the plan for doing what is needed for the kids with the "act as if" approach. She either agrees or does not, but then you just move on and do what is needed for the kids. If she keeps her end of the agreement, then a win for everyone. If she does not, then you do what ever it would be that you would do if she was not there or if she disagreed when you had the conversation.

The challenge for guys like you and I, is that we expect a certain level of behavior from our wives, but in the stage we are in, we can no longer expect that. We have to stay focused on knowing that WAW/WW/MLC will do what they will do and it will not make sense to us.

Basically as I understand it, we need to proceed without any expectations, act as if they will do what is best, but detach and not let anything they say or do affect us in how we go about our business. All of this IMHO of course as I do understand your challenges as I cross a very similar bridge. We gotta stay focused on making ourselves feel good and confident in spite of anything they do, say or behave like.

You got this. Try what you believe is right (avoid going with just your feelings) and keep track of what works, and if it does not work stay out of the cheeseless tunnels. wink


Me 46 Former W 46
D19 D7
BD Feb 2016
WAW moves out 4/16/16
D final 6/1/2017

It's time for me to start changin' the way I look at the world......and at myself. ~James Howlett aka Wolverine