Hi Iwad,

I'm no expert and am having trouble myself, but want to encourage you. Make your goals about you and not him.

You said your goal was for him to want to have a phone call. You have absolutely no control over his wants/desires. I am learning the same thing about my WAW/WW.

You can only make changes in you and your perspective. When you make those changes you will feel better about yourself. Detaching is VERY hard. I am learning that I am very codependent and it is VERY unattractive to my W. As I am having bits of success in detaching, I feel better about me. I still want my M to work, but I am going to be ok if it doesn't. That is powerful and something that others will notice.

This is the hard part and as you can see there are LOTS of us in your shoes. You aren't alone.

Focus on you. Find things you like to do and enjoy.

Good luck!


Me - 32
WW - 30
D 11, D 3, D 2
T - 9 years
M - 8 years
BD - 2/16