I think she emotionally works you over, to get her way. I think the only chance in saving this M will be for her to see in you the type of man she respects. Not a man who sticks his head in the sand and just hopes things get better. Not the passive man who won't take charge of what goes on in his household. Not the kind of man who is scared to call her out on her bad behavior and disrespect. Not a man who she can manipulate.

I don't even have to know her to tell you she doesn't want a man like this. No woman wants a man of that description. You cannot be afraid of making her angry or upset and expect her to desire you. She wants a man who won't take her cr@p and who stands up to her and tells her she can leave. She doesn't want a man who sees himself as being unworthy of her. She wants a man who won't hesitate to put her in her place when she is out of order.

Your W will probably never tell you the things I have just revealed. Women are not going to tell their H's things like this. So, I am here, trying to tell you guys things your W won't say. Take it for what it's worth.

You said it yourself, right after you first started this thread. Something to the effect that when you threw in the towel then she would get interested in you. So, why haven't you dropped the rope? What will it take for you to see this way is not working?

Have you gotten a shark lawyer yet? I suggest you do. Stop following her rules and start setting your own.

Did you read my threads about WW's?


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!